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Does the Immigration minister really believe in what he's doing?

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Australian Border Force and Western Australian police spent the weekend searching for 15 men who had arrived in the country by boat.

Eventually, all 15 were arrested and put on a flight to Nauru.

The arrival of this boat comes as the federal government attempts to legislate controversial new laws, deflect criticism from the opposition and keep immigration off the political agenda.

Today, national correspondent for The Saturday Paper Mike Seccombe, on the politician in the middle of it all – Immigration Minister Andrew Giles – and his surprising 23-year journey from asylum seeker lawyer to immigration minister.

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Guest: National correspondent for The Saturday Paper, Mike Seccombe