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Nia speaks to two women who hated school and overcame confidence issues to gain qualifications through their workplace.

Claire Arnold got her qualifications at school - not the first time but when she went back as a learning support assistant in her 20s. There she gained a degree and the GCSEs she didn’t get at 16.

Meanwhile, Flick Stock had always thought education wasn’t for her. But after signing up to do a course in British Sign Language, Flick has become a huge advocate for adult learning and is now studying Welsh.