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A film dear to Mike's heart since childhood, and a large blot on Steven Spielberg's career despite its financial success, Hook imagines a world in which Peter Pan, J. M. Barrie's flying boy who never grows up... grows up and forgets how to fly. When the adult Peter, a workaholic corporate lawyer unaware of his origins, travels to London with his family, his children are kidnapped, forcing him to return to Neverland, confronting his past, his attitude, and his erstwhile adversary, Captain Hook. Hook is a chunky, colourful family film with flaws all over the place. Its action is unexciting, its plot composed of several disparate strands and themes that never cohere elegantly. José takes issue with Dustin Hoffman's accent and John Williams' score, finding the former pointless and unsuccessful, the latter prescriptive and overbearing. But Mike defends them, finding charm in them, and appreciating as an adult what never stuck in his mind as a child, in particular the central emotional conceit: that for all the costs of growing up, the refusal of the Lost Boys to do so, and the fact that all adults in Neverland are pirates, Peter's happy thought - the crucial feeling that allows him to fly again - is of becoming a father and holding his newborn son. And José finds beauty in the lighting and staging of the film's London townhouse scenes that he never appreciated upon its first release. A messy film, but with pleasures. And anyway, it turns out that if you saw it five hundred times as a preteen then no criticism anybody can make can matter. Recorded on 1st June 2020.