Thoughty Auti - The Autism & Mental Health Podcast

Modern Jobs Fail Autistic People

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Episode notes

Autistic host Thomas is joined by Ben Schatzel, a human behaviourist and disability labour reformist, to confront the harsh reality of employment for autistic adults — and why it keeps failing us (spoiler, it's not you).


Thomas's Links: ⁠https://linktr.ee/thomashenleyUK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Ben's Links: ⁠https://linktr.ee/benschatzel

Code HENLEY25 : ⁠https://neurodivergentinsights.com/neurodivergent-store/⁠


In this episode, we discuss:

• Why autistic adults struggle to get and keep jobs

• How job interviews and recruitment practices filter out neurodivergent talent

• The false hope of surface-level “neurodiversity hiring” programs

• The crushing impact of sensory overwhelm, burnout, and masking at work

• The systemic design flaws in the modern workplace

• What a genuinely inclusive job would look and feel like

• Ben’s mission to reform workplace systems from the ground up

• The emotional toll of repeated failure and being seen as “unemployable”

• Why employment success for autistic people requires deep structural change


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